Welcome to marketing. The numbers are always accounts, not people. Mainly because there's no reliable way of counting actual people GÇö at best, you can generalise numbers from polling data (which will have a significant self-selection bias among those with more accounts).

GǪexcept that this would assume that every last player is always online 23.5/7. So no, the OP is ridiculously incorrect.

You feel the universe is dead? Well, maybe where you are, but then again, I can also go to somewhere in space where Id be the only one around for 20 jumps. I can also go to a place where hundreds of ships fly past me every second. Its all about where you are, the most remote corner of null wont have the same activity as Jita, obviously.

Yeah, I suppose.

I just did the following:

-+ Assume 7h/week for the average normal account use (2h each week-end day, 1h every other working day).
-+ Assume 164.5h/week for the 23.5/7 accounts (because that's what it comes out to).
-+ Assume 20k trials active and futzing around on the server in addition to the 500k subscribed accounts (because, hey, optimism).
-+ Take 39k average online (from eve-offline.com) for 168h/week or 6,552,000 account-hours per week.

Solve: 7x + 164.5(520,000-x) = 6,552,000 (where x = normal accounts)
GåÆ 501,511 normal-use subscribed accounts (of which 20k are trials), 18,489 all-hour accounts.

Yea, to hell with empirical evidence, how does a server of video game that represents 7000 solar systems FEEL, that's a much better way to judge things. Just like my ex-wife use to say "I don't care about the facts, i care about how I FEEL"......



Yea, Tippia, why don't you let go of all the "fact", and "evidence" and "reason" BS you keep spouting and get with the real (E-2C Hawkeye) plan and just tell us what FEELS right to you? Let your self be wrong all the time like hawkeye, not having to think is SO damn liberating it ain't even funny!


(And no, I'm not going to reimburse any exploded sarcasm meters guys, since CCP wants to nerf my magic moon goo spigot that CCP hands out to everyone who lives in null simply for living in null)

No. Just pulled numbers from my anal orfice the rest just made up nothing to do withflogic about player behaviour.

Great work pointing out im full of crap though.

Good thing I have plenty of self made facts too, and that as it turns out, the server usage comes out very close to the actual stats even if I just make crap up.

GǪso I think you might be confusing me with you and the OP here.

Easyly


1.) Translate IP to domain mask

2.) Use domain mask to pin point household

3.) Do a database query for every account in that house hold

4.) Separate database logs via mac addresses and you have the individual computers with in the household

So this is the easy part.. here we have a list of accounts, that could be one persons or could be multiples of people in the house hold. So things get a little tricky at this point, and the way my former company did it (with about 98% success rate)

5.) We took a chat log from a player for 15 days, and then ran more database queries on the chat logs, to look for commonly misspelled words across those accounts.


See what your narrow mind is forgetting, is that just because we act under animosity here on eve. Our habits do not change, the way we spell words the way that we structor sentences, and the words we use are all reflected across our alts.

Sure if you try to do a query like this all across eve's database it wont return ****, but after you narrow it down based on house hold.. its cake to see which accounts are owned by specific people.

It is also the same way that you look to see if someone is "Sharing an account".....


It was called project "Habitating Habits" where I worked....


You are foolish and narrow sighted, but don't worry maybe one day one of YOUR GUESSES will come up correct.


Ohh and other things you can look for:

When accounts login
What accounts area already logged when that account logs in
Player trades and contracts


Do you need more answers? Because I have more... I just don't really feel like typing them out if you are just going to give me a lame one word response....

The problem is that if he is ever accidentally right (even a broken clock is right twice a day....unless it's digital lol), I doubt he'd even know it.

But isn't it so much easier to just be mad at others for being right and reasonable than it is to be mad at yourself for being dumb?

lulz all around.

We already do. That's why you're being challenged when you make such nonsensical and obviously incorrect claims; even more so when you can't actually back them up and have to resort to ad hominems.

So you admit you were trolling then: you refused to actually engage in any kind of argumentation or discuss the topic at hand.

You almost can: just stop trolling. It'll do you (and the rest of us) no end of good.

That's just, like, your opinion, man.

In all seriousness, everything is ultimately subjective, as we use imperfect sensory and neurological machinery to perceive an objective outside world. However, the whole point of discourse is to arrive at workable solutions that allow us to coordinate collectively to interact with that outside world and each other.

Running to relativism every time someone challenges your beliefs or ideas is raw cowardice, plain and simple. We all know that we are each the final arbiters of our subjective perceptions, but engaging in discourse on a topic presumes that some beneficial mutual understanding can be reached through reason and empiricism. Nobody cares about your subjective beliefs that you don't want to expose to discourse, and putting them out there sets them up to be challenged by people.

If everything is just a matter of perspective, then keep your perspective to yourself; doing otherwise then invalidates you from running to relativism after your beliefs are trounced by others.

Easyly


1.) Translate IP to domain mask

2.) Use domain mask to pin point household

3.) Do a database query for every account in that house hold

4.) Separate database logs via mac addresses and you have the individual computers with in the household

So this is the easy part.. here we have a list of accounts, that could be one persons or could be multiples of people in the house hold. So things get a little tricky at this point, and the way my former company did it (with about 98% success rate)

5.) We took a chat log from a player for 15 days, and then ran more database queries on the chat logs, to look for commonly misspelled words across those accounts.


See what your narrow mind is forgetting, is that just because we act under animosity here on eve. Our habits do not change, the way we spell words the way that we structor sentences, and the words we use are all reflected across our alts.

Sure if you try to do a query like this all across eve's database it wont return ****, but after you narrow it down based on house hold.. its cake to see which accounts are owned by specific people.

It is also the same way that you look to see if someone is "Sharing an account".....


It was called project "Habitating Habits" where I worked....


You are foolish and narrow sighted, but don't worry maybe one day one of YOUR GUESSES will come up correct.


Ohh and other things you can look for:

When accounts login
What accounts area already logged when that account logs in
Player trades and contracts


Do you need more answers? Because I have more... I just don't really feel like typing them out if you are just going to give me a lame one word response....

This would be a clear example of you refusing to accept that not only could you be wrong but that in FACT you were wrong yet you cant acknowledge or admit it.

Nope.

So are you ever going to address the facts and figures, or are you just going to keep trolling? Are you going to provide some reasoning why you prefer unfounded, unreasonable, and counter-factual guesses to actual data? Or are you just going to keep going after me because it's all you can still try (and fail just as much at)?

GǪor at least 1900 Jita-local spammers.